Grief support groups, condolence advice, funeral etiquette and more
A continutaion of the "When a Spouse or Partner Dies" thread.
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This might be a rough time for many of you. Do what you feel you need to do to get through it. Remember, someone is here almost all the time to talk to you.
Started by Corey. Last reply by Marsha H Feb 14.
Started by Tiffany Phillips. Last reply by Sara Murphy Jan 27.
Started by brenda may. Last reply by Marsha H Jan 12.
Tiffany......It's so hard when our friends and family get back to their own lives, a little at a time. They have no choice but at the same time, we can't understand how the world is still turning when our worlds have stopped. Nothing makes sense anymore. I'm so sorry his mother is adding to your grief. I understand she is grieving too but she can't just assume ownership of his stuff. I don't know you're situation other than you hadn't gotten married yet but I think maybe it's time to put your foot down if she asks for anything else. You may not realize right now that you'll wish you had kept a certain something down the line. I agree with Mary Jane. This is about you and you need to do what's best for yourself.
Hi Chuck.....Yes, we got a little more than a foot of snow with this latest storm. 2 blizzards in 1 season so I'm ready for spring now.
I have to say I don't get the comparison your friend was trying to make between Legacy and a dating site. I've never used a dating site but I don't imagine there are any group conversations and connections at the level we connect here. I see dating sites as superficial such as with the unrealistic photo you mentioned. I do hope your friend finds happiness but money can't buy happiness so I do suspect she'll need you again.
I'm happy that you and Steve get to walk through your journey's with each other. To have someone who truly understands your grief I think is key. I'm no where near ready for another relationship but if the day ever came, for me it would have to be with a widower. I would need someone to understand that Ken is my end game. He is the soul I'm looking to reunite with. Only someone who's been through this could understand that feeling.
When the time is right, please tell us about your first face to face meeting. With your style of writing, I'm sure it'll be a hoot.
First, I hope everyone affected by the storm in the Northeast is doing OK – Sara, it would seem you got the brunt of it, although we got our share here.
I’ve been following the recent discussions and am always moved by how our sharing of our experiences helps each other. I hear myself frequently in the posts, especially from those who are so new here with their losses so recent.
If I have anything to contribute, it would be my experience soon after joining this family, almost 15 months ago. An old friend came for the day after learning of Larry’s passing and my hospitalization and illness. It happened to be on the date of Larry’s birthday, which is November 13. I didn’t tell her that until she had been here awhile, and we shared many tears and hugs for several hours. She intuitively let me ramble and share story after story about our 32 years together. I honestly don’t know how I would have gotten through that day alone.
Eventually talk turned to her life, and she revealed that she was in the early stages of divorcing her second husband, and was already considering joining an online dating site. She needed to feel loved, respected, and appreciated and felt her best way to do that was through finding a mate. We have the kind of friendship where we rely on each other for advice, so she wanted my input on the initial post about herself she was writing, as well as her “screening parameters” and her choice of photos.
Being rather protective of her feelings, I tried to push one thought only regarding the entire enterprise, which she seemed to be addressing like a job interview, complete with a dazzling resume and glamour shots of herself. This was not the woman I had known since our teen years, so said I thought that if she just wrote from the heart everything she had said to me about how she felt and what she wanted from a partner, posted with a few photos as she looked right that minute, dressed stylishly but comfortably, without tons of makeup, then anyone who responded would be more likely to suit her personality. In a nutshell, be completely candid and herself!
She appreciated my point, and promptly discarded my suggestions, going for photos that hardly resembled her, and shockingly was quite disappointed when her first few meetings didn’t go well. She also was explaining to me how she took particular note of the background details in the gentlemen’s photos - homes, cars, and clothing - to determine their financial status. I tried to keep still about my feelings, but when she kept comparing her efforts to my being on Legacy, and my developing friendship with one man in particular whose situation mirrored with mine, I finally spoke out.
Here, we are all struggling with the worst loss of our lives, and connect by offering listening ears, open arms, and no judgments or expectations – our purpose is simply to help each other survive one more day. There is nothing we desire from this family but acceptance and understanding. Sadly, my words fell on deaf ears. Since finding a well-off man and finalizing her divorce, in that order, I haven’t seen or heard from her.
So what is my point? Just that we all walk a path that will forever have an empty space beside us – at least in the physical sense. Larry has been with me every day since that awful day almost two years ago. He calms me, protects me, and guides me when I am so turned around that I can’t see straight. In my heart I believe that is so for all of us in this uncommon family – just as I believe that no matter what we feel and say now, the events ahead for us - the twists and turns our paths may take - will be right for us if we only keep true to our love for our spouses, patient with ourselves, and always honest with the world, whether they like it or not.
As for me, this way of making my way along this lonely path has brought something I never would have dreamed possible. Now when I look to one side, I am still alone, but when I turn my head and look to my other side, I find someone there, walking with me, sharing the tears and the smiles, and always understanding what I am feeling, because he himself is on the same path with those same feelings. “Why I am so blessed?” I ask every day, with only a quiet whisper in my ear answering “because you needed each other”.
I may soon write about the first face to face meeting, with all the funny and tortuous things we both went through leading up to that moment. For now, I only want to say to you all that your support, your encouragement, and especially your friendship is the only thing that has brought me through to this point, and continues to do so whenever I start to get shaky and uncertain. I wish for everyone here only that you stay strong, believe in yourself and your absolute right to grieve and eventually start healing in the way that is uniquely correct for you, and keep others from impeding or derailing that process, whomsoever they may be, or however noble their intentions.
Peace to you all today,
Two months isn't very long sorry for your loss and the pain of it. I have staid in our house, lots of reminders of Diane, not quite as painful as it used to be. It's been over a year I haven't done anything with her clothes, no hurry I guess. I have sold her 3 sewing machines and donated some of her craft stuff. We never got the chance to exchange Christmas Gifts either. Things have got somewhat better after a Year, I still hurt and miss her everyday but I also have some good days and smile about something that reminded me of something about her. I'm sure you will to eventually too. Try to hang in there.
Tiffany ... I do understand how you must be feeling. When Ernie passed away and we had his Celebration of Life, I had a few people over, but after they left there was just silence in the house. Thankfully, I was not only in denial, but exhausted and slept for a good part of the time.
It has been almost 6 years since Ernie passed and I still miss him so much. I miss him hugging and teasing me and those conversations of how our day went every evening he came home from work. I keep a radio on or the TV just to hear a human voice. In these 6 years the feelings of loss are not so intense, but not for once instance do I forget my dear Ernie. He grew up in this town and everywhere I look there are reminders of him. I think I told you I had to sell his truck/camper and also his boat and I sure choked up even though the people that bought them would put them to good use and I needed the money. I finally convinced myself they were 'just things' and the 'things' I'd give away in a Nano second if I could only see Ernie one more time.
When I finally cleaned out his side of closet I came across some clothes I bought him he'd never worn and a few Christmas gifts he hadn't even used.
I don't understand how his mother ended up with almost everything your sweetheart had as you were together and most should have been yours and a few things to sentimental value to his mother just to be kind to her as she lost a son.
It stings when you see the same vehicle all over town and thankfully I don't have to put up with that. The people who bought the truck/camper and boat don't live near me at all so I can breath some relief.
Tiffany each day that goes by you get a little stronger even if you don't believe you are. I know just getting out of bed some mornings takes all the energy one has to face another day without our spouses. Oh yes, I still have a few cries here and there missing my spouse like crazy, but found keeping busy or going for walks with a friend or just my dogs helped me a great deal.
I pray that today is a much better day for you and please keep coming back to Legacy as we're here for you.
This weekend was the first weekend I stayed back at 'our' house after 2 months. First night was ok, I had people there with me, but the next couple nights got harder as less people were there, until Monday when I was alone. I miss him so much, not having him in the house, or on the couch w/ me, or even just knowing he won't be home later. I have his clothes in my closet still, those will stay there for a while. I was looking through them this weekend and straightening them up some, only to break down because I realized that the shirts I'd gotten him for Christmas, some if not most, he hadn't even worn yet. I would have loved to see him in them. His mother wanted most everything back, but I was lucky to be able to keep the shirts.I had just gotten over the fact that after 3 years, his car wouldn't be in our drive way anymore.. His mother sold his car to my neighbor. Now I see it driving all over town all the time. I know they needed the car and she needed the money, but God does it sting. It's like I had just gotten over not having it there only to have to see it everyday, and know it's not his anymore.
As far as how you choose to move in your life (dating or remarrying or not) do not let anyone pressure you one way or another. I know that can be very difficult to do as there can be immense pressure from all sides. Just examine your own heart and decide how you want to proceed.
Jay, as far as dating sites go, if you go that route yes there is bad, but there also is good as I found out in my case. If you wish to do that and want some help and advice please feel free to message or email me. Having done this I can give you good pointers on how to present yourself, what to watch for, and what to watch out for.
Pete, at first I so desperately wanted someone to fill that hole in my heart. Now I am OK to go on as I am. The further seems uncertain to me, as I never thought I would be alone in it as I am. But, I do know that I am a lot stronger then I realized at first, and it will be OK.
i hope you Pete have some peace with your journey now too. Thank you for sharing your thoughts and story with me. I am finally getting to a place of acceptance. It all had seemed so unreal to me as my husband died too young and so sudden.
We were together so much of the time as both of us being disabled as you and you say your wife were. It is good to know that my experience is not unique on here and thank you for your support. It means a lot to me.
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