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A continutaion of the "When a Spouse or Partner Dies" thread.
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This might be a rough time for many of you. Do what you feel you need to do to get through it. Remember, someone is here almost all the time to talk to you.
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Oh how your words speak directly to my heart, as I know they do to everyone here. Mary Jane is so right in saying that many of us here have been to that hopeless point in our lives where the will to go on seems to evaporate. Some after our tragic losses, some who have dealt with this before at some time in our lives. Perhaps for us it is especially worrisome and concerning for people around us. I count myself among that number.
I was in hospital when Larry passed, and went from there to another rehabilitation facility to relearn everything from walking to dressing and bathing myself. I was asked repeatedly by psychiatrists in both hospitals I was in at the time of Larry's passing if I was feeling suicidal. My only honest answer I could give was that I was feeling nothing. Before being released to go to our empty home, where I am sure they weighed the possibility of my harming myself, I had numerous interviews with a team of doctors evaluating my readiness for release. In one I commented that they didn't have to worry about my jumping from the roof...I couldn't even climb three stairs! I think my somewhat morbid "joke" got me released as much as anything else. There was a previous attempt many years ago of which I had made them aware, so I have a history.
Once home for a few weeks, I had a serious episode - a health emergency while I was alone in my kitchen. I knew from visiting nurses that I had to keep the phone with me at all times, so there it sat on the table. Patty, I stared at that phone and thought "OK, so if I don't call then it's finally over, and I'll be with Larry."
What made me reach out finally and dial 911? I believe God, and Larry, and the many angels that were watching over me since it all began prompted me somehow. Why? I believe now that there was some way in which I was to be useful here in this world still, in one way or another.
I tell you all this my friend, because I want you to know that you are not by any means alone in your situation. Like you, many people around me who knew of my past were reluctant to bring up the possibility of my going through all that again. They worried about all the meds I had there especially and one nurse even counted my pills when she came by. Those of us who have been there know that it makes people very uncomfortable to discuss, and I tried to reassure everyone that I wasn't going to do anything foolish. I guess when I reached for that phone, I flipped a small silent switch into the off position somewhere inside myself. I now know that whatever takes me from this world, it won't be with any help from me.
Thank you for being open and honest with us - if we can't do that here in this family, then where? I just ask one thing of you Patty - if you find yourself where I did in your own personal way, reach for that phone.
Love, a big tight hug, and prayers for a peaceful day -
Oh, Patty, I think we have all been near “that dark place”, albeit I get the feeling you were closer...but SOMETHING kept you alive. So, apparently, you are MEANT to be here. We all are. That thought helps me, thinking there is something in the future, so I had better stick around and find out what it is...:-) Lately I am having some bad health issues..and I have always been pretty healthy...so I think about it on occasion...but I have ONE thing in my day to day life that keeps me getting out of bed each day...it is my CAT!
I don,t know if you have pets...but caring and loving something that depends on me is the joy I get daily. Yeah, I know, people say “it’s just a cat...” but it is so much more...this little guys life depends on me...and after Bob died, it is like HE KNEW I would need love...yes, he is an indoor only kitty, but he sleeps with me, plays with me, and brings me joy. Yes, I know he is getting older, and someday he will be gone, but the daily love people can get from an animal is unpresidented.
My SIL has 2 little dogs, and she says they are her life, but I don’t have the energy for a dog. With all the upkeep on your home, would it be possible to hire some help?
Or, as far as upgrading, would it be easier to move to a different place.? It seems like ALOT of work..and in a year or so, perhaps moving to a different place with less upkeep would b an option? NOT NOW...with Basil only gone a short while, I understand it will be quite awhile before you are ready for any change...but consider it for the future.
i sat on my a$$ for 2 years, unable to function, but now everything in my life is, or soon will b changing. I am 71 years old, and don,t have to energy for keeping up a larger house, and I don,t want to die in Oklahoma..where we retired to 13 years ago. I want to move back to the SF Bay Area..and hope for at least 10 good years. Besides the tornadoes, the summer heat and humidity here is going to kill me. LOL. I want to live near my daughter, and somehow make a life for myself b4 I die.
BTW, if you are a senior, and have so much land to care for..isn,t there somewhere you can ask for volunteers to help you,maybe once a month?
Thank you Mary Jane for your words of what might help me through this Horrible time I'm having to endure life without my love. I too keep a journal of what I am going through on a daily basis, but I've done this almost my whole life. I sometimes go back and read how I was feeling at certain times throughout my life. I have probably 50 journals!! I now keep one where I'm speaking directly to Basil to let him know what is going on with me and our girls. I do feel like he is with me cause I swear I can catch a SHADOW out of the corner of my eye. At first this scared me, then I started feeling comfort everytime I would see this shadow. I am retired, so I'm here at the house daily. I wish I was still working now. I do try and stay busy by cleaning and upgrading our home. There are so many things that was neglected the past year due to me caring for Basil. I have almost 2 acres I care for, weed eating, mowing, and cleaning. I feel like I'm a work horse. I'm just tired and sometimes I get angry with Basil for leaving me with all this work. I then get angry at myself for even thinking and blaming him for this!! I know he did not want to leave me. I'm just scared I will do something stupid and am working with my therapist on this issue. I have already done a real stupid thing to myself a few years ago and am now suffering from the effects of it today. My whole body cramps up and I have trouble sleeping because the minute I lay down, every muscle I have cramps up and I have to get out of bed and try to work the knots out. I'm just telling this because I don't want to go to that dark place again because it is a horrible place for your mind to go!!! I feel like I can say things on this site and not be judged. A lot of my family and friends don't want to talk to me about this Horrible time in my life. They say "Patty" please you don't want to go there again. I say"no kidding" because I was put away for quite a while. I just feel very weak and sad. I want to hear his voice and have him hug me and tell me that it is going to be okay!!
So sorry for this rambling, I know I'm all over the place and apologize to you for that!! Again, Mary Jane.. thank you. I truly appreciate you responding to me.
Oh, Patricia, I wish I had some majic words to help you...but I don’t think there are any. We just have to EXIST one moment at a time. Just try to get thru each day as best you can. I don’t know if you have to hold down a job...if not..just try to treat yourself with anything that gives you any small measure of comfort..sleep all day, eat sweets, cry, scream...whatever. Two things I find comforting: I keep a journal..when ever I feel like it, I write down what I am feeling..not every day...sometimes I go for weeks without writing, whatever works for you..but the BIGGEST thing that helps me..I imagine BOb is standing by my side all the time. So I talk to him all day long...seriously, who's to say he ISN’T there? I feel he is here beside me, ok, I some days I really feel like he is still here, but on a different “plane” so I can’t see him...also, when he died, my addled brain DIDN’T accept it..and I spent the first year waiting for him to return...I just knew he was going to walk in and ask if I missed him..and life would go on..and, yes, I talked to him al day that first year too...so, get any comfort u can, and do anything thT gives you any comfort..if you can. I wish you comfort.
Hello, my extended family. I've not been able to post here for a while. It was the 2 month anniversary of Basil passing. I am having a hard time getting through the pain. I am still so lost and don't feel like I can get through this and I don't know how to handle this situation. I know you all have been through this pain and maybe you have some words for me cause I'm at a crossroads where my life will go from here. I'M SO LOST!!!
Precious cargo indeed!
Thanks for the kind words. When it is said do not live in the past (at least by therapists) it does not mean forget it just means do not let the past keep you from experiencing the present. Our memories are all we have of our loved ones so of course do not forget or ignore them. It is OK to preserve our memories. My Rose was actually a contestant on Wheel Of Fortune (Yes she was the grand prize winner). I had my VHS tape converted to DVD. The sound quality is not that good but you still get a decent picture and can understand everything. So I don't blame you one bit for doing it yourself.
Dear Chuck ...
Thank you for the wonderful compliment. You know, I can still swing around on my broom, take a nose dive and land in your front yard ... face plant! LOL
I am so happy you have putting all your memories on DVD. I have done the same. Anyone that tells us that we should forget our past and move forward doesn't know what life is about. To remember those that we loved and have passed on to the family and friends we have now is so very precious and each person we come into contact with leaves an imprint on us and good memories. Bad memories make us strong, but the good memories heal those wounds. To look back in our lives shows us how well we lived life even throughout our mistakes and now it's time to look forward and make new memories to add to our list.
With much love
Chuck.....Memories are too precious to be let go of. Ken's grandmother, who passed just 2 years before him at the age of 96, would routinely mention how precious her memories were and how grateful she was to have them. She lost her husband in her 60's and her daughter (Ken's mother). I didn't fully understand at the time when she would say "at least I have my memories" but I sure understand it now. Also nothing wrong with converting your home movies to dvd. I hope no one is suggesting you discard all photos of Larry so why should you discard home movies? That's part of your history. I hope you do move forward with it. We converted my parents wedding footage to dvd and I'm glad we did.
Much love to everyone here.
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