Grief support groups, condolence advice, funeral etiquette and more
A continutaion of the "When a Spouse or Partner Dies" thread.
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This might be a rough time for many of you. Do what you feel you need to do to get through it. Remember, someone is here almost all the time to talk to you.
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I went to a seminar last night with the author as the speaker, have been reading the book and doing the journal for awhile now, I think its very helpful, don't try to get thru the book fast, its meant to be a slow read. also I got a meditation BOOK HE wrote called Grief One Day At A Time, its dated for every day of the year and you find the days date and read one a day, I like it so far, just got it last night
Thank you so much for that recommendation. I actually ended up getting that today on the kindle and I also got the journal that goes along with it! This seems like it will be really helpful. Thanks!
Kaela you need to get the book Understanding Your grief by Alan Wolfelt, its so good and verifys all of these feelings that we all have , hes a grief counselor and has written multiple books
Thank you Sara. You made me laugh when you talk about yelling at your friends and family in your head so you don't tell them to F off. Luckily, my close family and friends seem to really understand except for the occasional moments (and I feel cranky at them). I have had a few acquaintances from work ask me how I am doing, and when I tell them they go, "Why?" Its like "UMMMM..." I had another woman, who I used to really like, message me, "I'm sure Brian wouldn't want you to feel so sad" and "I hope you can get back to approaching life with enthusiasm and zest!" I know she meant well, but I wanted to throw my laptop across the room at that point lol.
It is me who is the hardest on myself. I beat myself up like, "Why are you still so tired?" "You shouldn't be doing this" "you shouldn't be doing that," freaking out and trying to resist my anxieties rather than just accepting it, beating myself up for not being normal. Trying to force myself to be an act normal when there is no way I can be. Starting today I have made an effort to fight those feelings. I caught myself several times and told myself to stop. I have to be kinder to myself. I also have some friends who have been trying to pressure me to drive 3 hours to their town to visit and I just can't. Its so hard for me to socialize right now and people are just going to have to understand or its bye bye.
I LOVE that response of "We can continue this conversation when your spouse dies" to people who are being extra insensitive or don't get it. I may just use that.
Today was much better and tolerable. I hope your day was okay as well. :-)
Kaela.......Don't worry about the language. We all get very frustrated and have to let it out. You make a valid point. I think we spend so much time worrying about other people and trying to act/feel normal for their sake. You're absolutely correct.......it's not normal for a 30 year old to go on vacation and die in bed. You shouldn't be expected to pretend otherwise. You may need to start reminding people of this for the sake of your sanity.
I feel like I spend so much time angry and yelling at people in my head so that I won't tell all my family, friends and acquaintances to F off when they say stupid things. This leads to my previous comment about educating people. For my own sanity, I need for people to know why what they said isn't helpful. For those I know won't even try to get it, I'll just say we can continue the conversation when their spouse dies.
I hope today was a tolerable day for you.
I was just reflecting tonight after a really hard, anxious day. My husband's aunt was saying how the first year after losing her husband was complete insanity. And it continues of course past the first year. I was reflecting on what she said and it occurred to me: I waste so much time and energy trying to be "normal." I put so much effort into trying to be stable and normal. And why should I? What happened to be wasn't normal. It's not normal to be 30, and go on vacation and walk in and find your 31 year old husband dead on the bed. Its not normal to have to do CPR on your husband and call 911 and deal with all the king's horses and all the king's men. Its not normal to have to cremate your husband's body 8 months after you finally got married after 10 years of being together. Its not FUCKING normal so why should I have to devote all this time and energy in trying to be normal and stable and put pressure on myself to do so? I am tired of trying to push my crazy away and I just want to embrace the fact that I am going to be really screwed up and angry for a really, really long time and those that don't understand don't need to be in my life.
PS- I am sorry for the language and the rant. Its been a "day."
Steve.....that's a great poem. I never thought of it that way, that we can say we're doing well because we allow ourselves to grieve. That certainly has to be healthier than holding it in and pretending we don't feel anything. Society looks at grieving as our not doing well and getting over it. We all need to change that thought process one person at a time. I try to be brutally honest when someone asks me about how I'm doing, not because I want to cause them discomfort but because I want them to carry the knowledge forward. It can only help for the next family/friend they have who suffers a devastating loss.
My friends' father entered hospice a week ago. He has about a month left if that. When I was talking to her last week, she had a different understanding of what Ken and I went through. Even though she was there for us, visited Ken in the hospital etc she didn't truly understand what I was going through. Now that she's facing the loss of her father, she realizes that as hard as this is, if she were to lose her husband it would be much more devastating. It's unfortunate that we have to endure these losses in order to understand.
Love the poem! It sums things up so well!
Steve I love the poem it should be posted everywhere so everyone can read it. I learned a long time aga after my 1st husband passed away that you don't ever get over someone you love passing away, you just go on and eventually it gets easier but its never gone, My nephew had a son pass 2 years ago and looked to me for assurance that it would be "better" soon, I was honest and told him it would be a long time but it never truly goes away he looked at me and said "that sucks", I said yes it does.People that haven't been thru it don't understand that as long as we continue to love the person that passed away we will always grieve for them, for what could of been if they were still here, Debbie P
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