Grief support groups, condolence advice, funeral etiquette and more
This is a forum for those who have been affected by a loss from a murder/suicide
Latest Conversations: Feb 10, 2015
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I am so very sorry Kim. It is really helpful to talk to others who have been through similar experiences. It helps so that you don't feel so alone and know that others feel what you have felt or feel now. I also am seeing a counselor and she helps me to put things in perspective. Deaths like this make things much more complicated and I believe harder to go through the grief and all of the feelings that come along with it.
Lisa, please share here what a wonderful person your nephew was. This is a safe place to do so. Luckily, I still have family and friends who haven't abandoned us and my brother. Although there have been some. This situation is so complex, the grieving is different I believe from a death of natural causes. There is much anger, even on my side, towards certain people... But nothing changes who my brother was to me, the son he was, the father, the friend...
For service we had for my brother was by word of mouth as well. Many people showed up. I agree with you Lisa, they were so much more than who they "were" on that tragic day. They were loved and loved others. I'm sorry there were threats. Thankfully we did not hear of anything like that ourselves. Everyone is a victim in these situations, everyone has a right to their grief, to heal, to do what they need to to lay their loved one to rest.
Erin - We had a memorial for my nephew and his two sons (who were victims), we had it at an out of the way church, which was actually a monostary and the monks who we explained the situation welcomed us with open arms. We thought it would be small and did not publish it, only word of mouth and over 200 people were there. It was still intimate, and it was cleansing to know we put their souls to rest. We did not publish anything until after it was done, as we received threats from his girlfriends family (also a victim) to destroy any memorial we were to have and later found they truly did have a group of 40 plus people ready for when they found out. We were banned from my nephews son's funeral, so it was a way to share loving stories of the man he was for 25 years not what he was on that tragic day. You may be surprised of the support you receive for the memorial, but would say to have it, you all deserve to mourn and celebrate the person he was.
I still find it hard to talk about him to others, not because I am ashamed, but do not want the backlash when I say what a wonderful person he was, response is always how can you say that when he took his whole families life. I don't think it will ever get easier.
I called my 20 year old cell phone today while getting in the car. I pretend he was wearing his headphones and would not answer his phone.
Tamara, you also suffered a loss. Despite the circumstances, you lost your loved one too. It hurts everyone. You are victims as well. I think you and your family have the right to have a memorial for your uncle. You are suffering too. There is a way to do it to help you grieve while also not offending the aunt's family. Follow your heart and do what you have to to help yourself heal. It is not black and white, your uncle wasn't a loner without family who cared about him (obviously). I think you should have a memorial, if certain family members do not want to participate, that is on them.
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