it has helped me and a friend of mine who also has had suicidal thoughts to try our best to focus on expressing to someone...who has been there...how we feel so bad, or how we feel like killing ourselves. it may seem like a little thing, but…"
"today...and this week...has been especially hard. i feel the despair and hopelessness about my life, or life in general. i feel a lack of hope for love and a relationship. i wonder how much this despair runs in my family. my brothers suicide seemed…"
"ellen, it is normal for people who havent experience the loss of suicide to be uncomfortable talking about it. it is also normal, unfortunately, for many people to avoid the subject even if they have experienced it. it is too hard for many.
celebrate his birthday by having whatever memories come, i would say. thats like celebrating yourself as a human being, for being human is full of pain as well as pleasure...and sometimes lots of pain. but, as you say, you also know the road…"
you are not alone.
there are many here who know your suffering and do care.
we care for each other in our empathy.
maybe your husband loved you as best he could, but that does not mean he did not have terrible problems all his own.
"dawn, yes, it is good to have a connection to others who you can know without a doubt understand what youre going through. the pain is so bad sometimes, but the pain is a price we pay for having a heart that is open.
and lori, dont shut your heart…"
I read your story and I think you are very good at expressing your feelings and your pain. I'm sure it certainly doesn't feel that way, but believe it, it is. It is the kind of gift that, in effect, saves people like you and me, and…"
caryn and margo are speaking from a place all of us probably know here. u are going through the worst time of it right now, where it just has not sunk in yet. it is like your system is still in shock. it is very hard just to accept the…"
My God, how horrible a story to hear. I can't imagine how hard it is for you and your children. You ALL absolutely need support and help. Have you any grandparents who can help you take care of the kids and perhaps help financially at…"
"reading all the posts hear of course brings back the pain of losing my oldest brother to suicide a year and a half ago. for the new year i wish we each hear can have still some hope...when things are most painful for us. i realize, though many days…"
"elizabeth, sarah, janet,
i am moved by your loss, your struggles with grief and with others who shun it, and with your stories that are like my own. i lost my brother a year ago. the anniversary was a couple weeks ago, which awoke much sorrow for…"
thank you. today, as i am sure u know, if very hard. but, even though i am i guess technically speaking an agnostic, its weird that i sometimes feel that he is with me, not as totally gone from time and space as...as it feels at other…"
im sorry 2 say i know the pain ur feeling...after losing my dad 2 heartattack last year and my big bro 2 suicide 6 mos later.
i agree with theresa that we dont ever arrive, per se, at surviving our grief. i think it is often always hard,…"
"thank u tamika, what an honest and spontaneous sharing about this terribly painful and scary experience. i feel so similarly about losing my dad...then my big brother. recently i had a bad accident. my big brother was a doctor. i miss him even more…"
today...and this week...has been especially hard. i feel the despair and hopelessness about my life, or life in general. i feel a lack of hope for love and a relationship. i wonder how much this despair runs in my family. my brothers suicide seemed very tied to it. my younger brother suffers from it, too.
i feel a serious lack of the old abitions i once had, the old hopes even. is this transient, or a new , worse pattern for me since the loss of my dad and oldest brother. my brother was a suicide. my father a heartattack. sometimes my heart feels funny and i get scared, tho things have checked out physiologically.
my brother was a doctor. my father a social work clinician. i once wanted to go into therapy training. and i once wanted to write creatively. having accomplished only part way in both disciplines i feel at times like these a failure. and yet should i feel a success having worked so hard on my own issues in therapy that i didnt follow my brothers road? i have succeeded there, but i dont feel a success.
i have succeedeed in being a friend to others, but that doesnt sustain me today. i have succeeded in keeping my own demons from destroying me, but yet i feel such despair today and loneliness.
why is life so hard? are we creatures doomed to self destruction? every beautiful thing we create seems destined to be torn down or perverted into something cheesy or cheap or empty. and every amazing person...eg, gandhi, martin luther king, bobby kennedy...who seems on the brink of stimulating a real difference...is cut down and destroyed...almost as if by their nature they attract the most desperately aggrieved and vicious, the worst in us.
i guess losing hope is part of life, and one must come to accept this pain, see it as an emotional experience we must embrace, lest our rigid resistance to it turn us dangerously cynical, bitter, vindictive, or just depressed...or anxious, like my ex brother...ourselves.
so hard sometimes to hold onto that very thin thread of truth...that its an emotional experience we must pass through, like a storm, not to be equated with who we are...
makes me think of what a wise person once said...that we become desperate, sometimes dangerously so, where we cannot bear to feel our despair.
i feel that today...the line between them. and it scares me. hopeully scares me into just letting go more, even tho i am all alone and even scared to call a friend i fear wont be able to just be there for me and not judge me...
im so sad, and the sadness takes on a universal quality when i let go and feel some of it. and its overwhelming... so overwhelming it feels like dying a lot of deaths.
sorry if im sounding depressing as hell. but im not sorry, too. life is what it is, and it seems to me so much of my own misery, like those i read of others here, is in the fear and shame and holding back.
im gonna try so hard to not hold back. to let go. i know im not really alone. the more i read here, the more i know that...at least where we dont fight it so much. cause then we know how much we are bonded in suffering in this life, and it should bond us more and more. cause the more i let myself feel all of this, the less i feel alone. like magic.
like a magic thats so often so hard to get to, tho its right in front of us all the time. just let go and you will come back to life, a wise mentor once used to say. its just life, she said.
yeah. this crazy life. one day at a time. giving...in...to get.
but on days like this its all i can do to give in and cry. it feels like im gonna die.
maybe we sort of do. many times in this life. and maybe life is about being less afraid of all these little deaths the older we get. is that maturity, in a manner of speaking?
if so, heres to being a little mature today. i feel like such a desperate child. i want something and i cant let go into the truth of not having. but so much of life is filled with that...with not having
Greg, I completely agree with your statement regarding the importance to let them be what they are....something more than just a dream. When I experienced this, it was my reality at the time. There is no reason why I can not store it in my brain along with all my other good memories, to be pulled out now and then and find comfort in it. Along with the death of my brother, I also have lost my father (and mother). I thought losing parents was tough! After that happened to me I thought "I know how to handle greif". But the death of a sibling is a totally different loss. But here you are, you lost your father then 6 months later your brother. How can you deal with the first when you are hit again so soon? I don't want you to feel loneliness, I want you to know that I will listen to anything you have to say about your father and or your brother. I understand and I also care.
Hi Greg. I wanted to say also that I have found local grief support groups in my locale to attend in person, and that too, has made all the difference for me. It doesn't work for everyone, and every group is different, but it is definitely a valuable and potentially helpful resource. Google grief recovery support groups in your area, especially with key words suicide (like in Survivors of Suicide) and hospice (which will be more general grief support, but I have still found mine to be so wonderful). I even made one ongoing friendship through the group that is so strengthening to me. She and I meet outside of group to do coffee or lunch visits. I read a lot too, everything I could find on processing grief, understanding mental illness, brain disorders and suicidality. The information has been invaluable to move me through the guilt feelings that dominated during those first several months. I took up hobbies that got me out of my house and reclusiveness. I made a pact with myself to not turn down invitations, even when feeling depressed or without energy, because I knew that if I did, I would just turn in on myself, and that is not the way to healing. I did not want to be stuck in this funk any longer than I had to, which is what propels me forward whenever I get 'stuck'.