Bereaved Spouses

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Comment by deborah peck on April 5, 2020 at 12:01pm

Chuck, I loved the way you felt safe here and how honest you were. I was thinking yesterday how horrible this must be for people with severe depression and anxiety and then it dawned on me how many people in abusive relationships were now in real danger. Im very proud of you for all the hard work it takes to remain sober but you are still doing it, Im sure Larry is very proud of you and understands that you couldn't help it, you have a sickness and he loved you and you have so many good memories. I think now that life has slowed down it causes many of us to reflect on our lifes, past and present and hopefully to realize we cant change our past behavior but we can change what we do in the future. So much love to you and keep up the good work

Comment by Charles E. Nelson on April 5, 2020 at 11:47am

To clarify - Larry wasn't experiencing Liver failure - I just saw how that could be confusing the way I wrote it - sorry


Comment by Charles E. Nelson on April 5, 2020 at 11:45am

Dear Mary Jane (and everyone)

Yes, this is our safe place - and so I am availing myself of that security now. You see, today is a rather important milestone  for me...5 years sober. I honestly don't remember how much if any of the events surrounding this I have shared here before. My sobriety was not by choice - I was taken by ambulance to the ER with Larry experiencing liver failure with multiple organ involvement. I was intubated and placed in an induced coma for 2 weeks. During my withdrawal I experienced delirium tremens, or the DT's leaving my with encephalopathy which affects my moods, balance, memory - all kinds of fun stuff. Of course I am now living with cirrhosis and have my liver checked regularly for signs of deterioration, disease, or cancer to which I am now more susceptible. Life is not what it was for me, but that I have life at all is a miracle. It was during that period in 2015 that I lost my beloved Larry, and my feelings about my health, my alcoholism, and my relationship with and loss of Larry are all so confusingly mangled together that I don't expect ever to be able to completely sort through them. one day all I can think of is the way my drinking affected our life and what he must have endured, the next I'm remembering how much fun and life we shared for 32 years - emotional gymnastics for which I should be well equipped but don't always navigate well.

since this crisis started I am daily seeing on TV people sharing recipes for cocktails, discussing online drinking parties, and even major personalities drinking on camera as a joke about how they are coping. For me, this can be upsetting and not at all funny. Only Whoopy Goldberg has been clearly reminding viewers who have addictions to seek help and reach out as their anxiety grows along with their memories of how they would have been behaving in the past. God bless her for that. 

I plan to write out something in the way I did when I first joined here, but am busy making protective masks for Steve and I as well as some at-risk friends, so that is taking priority right now. I just wanted to say how much being here has saved me in more ways than I could ever express - I didn't join AA or attend meetings, and thankfully have never wanted to start drinking again - but I know enough from family experiences that I am will always be one drink away from disaster, and for me death. 

Please all of you be safe, mindful, and aware of how much we all mean to each other - here, and to the world .

Love to you all


Comment by Chicago Beard on April 3, 2020 at 5:36pm

Mary Jane that was hilarious. 

Here is another one

Comment by Mary. Jane on April 3, 2020 at 12:52pm

KIDS..THIS IS AWESOME! Took me 20mins to figure out how to share this link..I PROMISE this video will make your day! It’s a family in the U.K. who made a parody musical about being shut in, set it to ONE DAY MORE song from Les Miserable 

PLEASE I hope thelink works..if not I will try again or u an google the Marsh Family in Kent sings to Les Misérables 

Comment by deborah peck on April 3, 2020 at 11:57am

Mary Jane I feel like this is our safe zone to rant all we want and we all get there now and then so no worries. The weather here is starting to be nice out so have been doing yard work and enjoying my porch, I usually walk a lot but the parks here have shut down because people are too crazy to stay apart . My granddaughter just left potatoes on my porch and a lot of food on my sisters, she is alone and her own kids don't check on her so she said she cried when Kenzie left her it. So sad but sometimes life doesn't seem fair so we all need to help where we can. I hope everyone stays safe and gets thru this unscathed, 

Comment by Mary. Jane on April 3, 2020 at 10:40am

I am so sorry for my rambling late night post. No, I wasn't scared, and very sleepy when I posted that.THAT is why I don,t watch the news about this..Bob had a saying: “Fear eats the soul”. Yes, it does. 

I think about Bob a lot these days, and thank GOD he didn’t live to see this. But, again, maybe he would have been ok with see, he believed very strongly that we are not alone in this universe. I used to humor him, thinking it was all in his mind..but both he, and his sister SWEAR they had “visits”when they were small children. In the early 1950’, who knows? Maybe this is the Mother Ship, coming to take us “home”. LOL..or maybe this is natures way of “thinning the herd?” A friend pointed out to me all the times it has happened before. We will never know. STAY SAFE, my friends.

Comment by Mary. Jane on April 3, 2020 at 1:30am

Inhaven,t been out of the house in 24 days. Melinda has been doing all the shopping, she won,t come in, leaves the bags on the porch..but I fear for HER, as she has been out in public..but wears masks, gloves and keeps he distance.

i think the people who seem to be blatantly ignoring the rules, are of the mindset, that this ismSO TERRIBLE, they cannot wrap their minds around it, and don,t BELIEVE it is real we are hand fed DAILY crap on TV, police series, sitcoms, talk shows,..and I think it is hard for some people to distinguish reality from fantasy..

i have to admit..I have read so many Stephe. King and the like books do scenarios such as this..Infeel we are LIVING one.i have stopped watching the news...I stay inside..the reality of all of this is just overwhelming...I feel like this is a bad dream..and I want to wake up. 

More than Getting sick, I fear the AFTERMATH of all of this..people with no more money, or who have lost everything, turning to crime to either pay debts, or relapse anger..or a multitude of other stuff...marshal law, home invasions..I would rather die from a virus, than die violently.

And, here is where I get REALLY OUT THERE...(it’s late, my mind wanders..) what if...(put on your science fiction hats, kids) ..oh nuts, I cannot even type it...never mind. Goodnight.

Comment by Marsha H on April 2, 2020 at 4:25pm

Thought you might enjoy this.  It's a Mash comedy that fits in with scrubbing up, wearing masks, not touching your face and staying your distance:

Comment by Marsha H on April 2, 2020 at 3:57pm

Steve & Deborah P...

I can certainly understand your frustrations as to why others in communities are not getting the message to gear-up before going out.  Here is what is going on in British Columbia, Canada.

We have just been told to wear masks last night by Health Canada and yet I do see most people without them.

Hand sanitizers are a must or better yet gloves.  If you can't find proper gloves anywhere (thin rubber ones) you can use the rubber gloves that you would use for washing dishes.  That's what I have to wear because hand sanitizer; masks are so hard to come by.

Not visiting other people at their homes and we don't do that here.  If we have to leave food or something else for them they are left on the doorstep.  

Costco is now only allowing 2 people at a time to go into the warehouse.  Other stores have plexi-glass windows and only credit cards or debit cards are accepted and no cash is accepted.  They have red 'X's' by the till to stand 6 - 7 feet away from the person ahead of you and behind you.  All workers providing services to the public must wear masks and gloves. 

On the Canadian news last night a woman came down with Covid-19 and she had not been traveling, but she had been to one church (not many people there at all) and they figure she caught it off the bench she sat on.  They didn't give further news and I question this because because there has been no proof that this virus will go through your clothing.  However, that being said I am abiding the law and not sitting on park benches or anywhere else public.  Gear up, get my groceries and go home. 

Like you said Deborah I am sick of people taking this so lightly and there are more people out there without  masks or gloves.  Their children are at best even before this virus outbreak to be little germ carriers.  Some people are still going about their business as if nothing is wrong and not keeping their distance. It's time they started to realize that if we all don't use our common sense this virus won't leave.

I hope you are all well and are keeping busy.  I have the cleanest house on the block.  LOL




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