If you googled the spiritual significance of the number 17 in your dreams you would have come up with this above.
It is an odd coincidence that my step mother died on the 17 and my sister kept having dreams of the 17 sign. She was going on about the significance of her dreams and the number 17 so I just googled it. Now I look at your writing and I see clearly that you have had a terrible loss on this earth.
Do you know how and why your children died? I am curious to know more.
I know we are here to learn and that maybe just maybe this life on earth is less real then the next dimension.
If you read that link above you can see that the number you mention has significance and that while we are at a great loss and miss our loved ones so much longing to just have another moment with them. To give a hug, to say the right thing....if only it could have lasted longer..
The finality of it all is how it appears. Yet, is it possible the 17 or 8 as in the dream or vision tells as story that if you research it means that there is no real end because there is a cycle and life can't end. There is no end and there is no beginning it is just an illusion. There is no time in heaven or so they say a day in heaven is a thousand years on earth. Does this mean our days here are measured not by the time but the content of what we do in that time? The lessons we learn are to cherish all those we now come in contact with. Our earthly time is but a blip as measured in the grand scheme of things. What are we learn is to feel and to know that life is eternal.
Our loved ones do live on and we may be in contact in the future. Our time here is not infinite in the third dimension. That is the earth is 3d. There are other dimensions.
We have much to learn. There is so much science that has to learn.
I am at a loss today..I miss my child that has gone before me.
It is not fair I scream and yell inside. Quiet on the outside. Noone knows the ache inside. Dare I cause another misery. I say that she lives on. I know it is true. Gone too soon...
Pray is all I can say. Pray and learn. Do your best to learn what you are here to learn.